Warnings from the heart! What does God say, and why woudl someone's policy not line up with God's Word.
Numbers 16:26
He warned the assembly, "Move back from the tents of these wicked men! Do not touch anything belonging to them, or you will be swept away because of all their sins."
Warnings!!! The bible is the guide to my path on this book I meditate on it and the Words in it day and night. This book is full of warnings and things to watch out for and I have to say that I feel like God is pushing me to warn people of place’s that they can get to that really keep them from God and the Joy of His peace and love and grace and mercy.
Please consider this carefully, because man’s pride will keep them from being honest . The bible say’s pride comes before a fall. I know we all fall short of the glory of God. Nehemiah when told of the city walls being destroyed and people being defeated, he did not become full of pride and say will, I or me, what did he do? He repeated for them, mourned for them, got on his knees and prayed for them. He had compassion for them. This is true Christian or true believers reactions. When our brothers are hurting we should never think of ourselves, we should never compare ourselves to them. Each of us has a different ministry in Christ and should never place our judgments on them based on our own accomplishments or defeats. We should run to them with love and grace an mercy praying for them, laying hands on them and walking with them through there valley’s and their hurts. If we aren’t then this should tell you something about what you really believe in.
Ecclesiastes 4:13
Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.
Ezekiel 3:19
But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.
I’m not calling anyone wicked but mislead. If you are attending a Church that has no visit the sick ministry, then you may be in the wrong place. Caring for one another is taught over and over in the Word of God the bible. How can you care for someone if you do not see them when they are sick and lay hands on them and pray for them, and see them in the pain and sufferings? You simply cannot do that trough email. If you are attending a church or apart of a group that does not go after the hurting, the sick and love them then you maybe in the wrong place. This is just a warning from my heart; I’m not telling you what to do or judging you. I simply saying there is much more to being a Christian then going to church for an hour each Sunday, or making all the Church evens.
I have recently been on the other end of the hurting part, and watched someone getting hurt each day because her Church did not come running to her rescue. Her whole family rejected her because she choose this Church, that was not apart of her families belief. They completely wrote her out, for many years we were not only not welcome too many of the family get together but was not even spoken to by them. Yet when she was hurt, that same Church that she choose, wrote he off, no one came to visit her, or see her. Her pastor even met her at the hospital almost a month after her dad had been in the hospital, didn’t pray with here or go into see her dad with her. Wow this was such a shock. I have no idea how a man of God could not want to pray with someone that is hurting as bad as she is.
I have been told that my web site does not edify Christ. When the Priest and the religious people came after Jesus, He not only told them who they where but He also gave them a new name, “You brood of vipers”.
This is a simple warning, if you walk into a Church and the leaders and the folks on the stage and the folks greeting you are not excited to be there and showing that, then you maybe in the wrong place. Those folks maybe there only because they where told they have to be because of something other than why you should be there. I dare you to ready Ezekiel chapter 3 and if this does not pierce your heart then something’s wrong. Again I am not condemning any one church or man. But if you feel convicted, please pray about this as I have. It is not for me, to call or go check on someone that hasn’t been to church for a while that is for someone else to do it, or we don’t do that here. What? Please search your heart constantly, please read the Bibledaily and meditate on it. If you or someone you know, or your church is not lining up with what God says then do something about it.
I did, I tried for several years only when I needed them to do what I was doing for God, to come back to me, came back void from that church. To love someone is only to pray for them or send them and email every now and then? What?
I have come to terms with the fact that my church home can not support me and my family when we need them the most. That it is a personal matter. I was told when I needed love and compassion. What? Not a church matter or that we just don’t do that here. These are the things that have pushed us away. Not someone calling me up and saying I’m sorry you can no longer attend my church type of thing. If you look for me on the church directory you would see my name is not on there. Or my mom’s even though my mom is 73 years old, and has not been there for a while no one has called her and offered to take her to church while I was sick and in the hospital? Her name is no longer on the church membership directory either, even though I was told Teusday this is all some misunderstanding that we love you and we want you to come to church.
I have attending 1,452 services’ at this church that say’s to me, to be a member you only have to come twice. Yet my name is no longer on the church directory. I attended a church called Emmanuelle Baptist back in 1982-1983 my name is still on their directory and at least 3 other church’s I only attended for a while still have me and my family listed in there directory. Why? So some can see that name and say wow its been a long time since I scene them I’m going to pray for them and give them a call and see if I can come see them. Although that maybe misread into by some other folks.
Just a warning make sure that the Church you attend is excited about being there. Make sure they do what they teach. Make sure that they visit the sick, they visit with folks that they haven’t scene and simply don’t just right them off. If your pastor or teacher has decided in his own life to make policies that do not line up with what the Word says because of his own personal experience be very careful.
This is just a warning, I am not telling you to do anything like leave your church. If something is broken, fix it. If you see things not happening that you know should be, cause Jesus said to do. DO IT. Don’t wait for someone else too. If you know a family that is setting at home in the dark with no electric go help them, don’t wait for someone else. If you know someone is sick, the bible doesn’t just say visit them it tells us to care for them. It doesn’t say church policy is the family should do that! THE BIBLE DOSEN”T SAY THAT!!!! It say’s care for them….. So if you are reading this, and you know some things in your church that seem broken pray about, if God puts on your heart then DO IT.
Simple isn’t it. I know this sounds condemning, but it’s not, I am pleading with you, don’t let these things get out of hand at your church. Speak to your pastor if he tells you, I think that in my experience that, so – in – so. And that does not line up with the word. Ask him why would you even think that could be right! Confront him and your church leaders if they don’t line up. There are many church’s out there find one that does line up.
Simple if God said it, do it, if he didn’t say it then why would your policy be otherwise?
Thanks…..I hope God Blesses you and touch’s your heart. I know he has mine.
He warned the assembly, "Move back from the tents of these wicked men! Do not touch anything belonging to them, or you will be swept away because of all their sins."
Warnings!!! The bible is the guide to my path on this book I meditate on it and the Words in it day and night. This book is full of warnings and things to watch out for and I have to say that I feel like God is pushing me to warn people of place’s that they can get to that really keep them from God and the Joy of His peace and love and grace and mercy.
Please consider this carefully, because man’s pride will keep them from being honest . The bible say’s pride comes before a fall. I know we all fall short of the glory of God. Nehemiah when told of the city walls being destroyed and people being defeated, he did not become full of pride and say will, I or me, what did he do? He repeated for them, mourned for them, got on his knees and prayed for them. He had compassion for them. This is true Christian or true believers reactions. When our brothers are hurting we should never think of ourselves, we should never compare ourselves to them. Each of us has a different ministry in Christ and should never place our judgments on them based on our own accomplishments or defeats. We should run to them with love and grace an mercy praying for them, laying hands on them and walking with them through there valley’s and their hurts. If we aren’t then this should tell you something about what you really believe in.
Ecclesiastes 4:13
Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.
Ezekiel 3:19
But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.
I’m not calling anyone wicked but mislead. If you are attending a Church that has no visit the sick ministry, then you may be in the wrong place. Caring for one another is taught over and over in the Word of God the bible. How can you care for someone if you do not see them when they are sick and lay hands on them and pray for them, and see them in the pain and sufferings? You simply cannot do that trough email. If you are attending a church or apart of a group that does not go after the hurting, the sick and love them then you maybe in the wrong place. This is just a warning from my heart; I’m not telling you what to do or judging you. I simply saying there is much more to being a Christian then going to church for an hour each Sunday, or making all the Church evens.
I have recently been on the other end of the hurting part, and watched someone getting hurt each day because her Church did not come running to her rescue. Her whole family rejected her because she choose this Church, that was not apart of her families belief. They completely wrote her out, for many years we were not only not welcome too many of the family get together but was not even spoken to by them. Yet when she was hurt, that same Church that she choose, wrote he off, no one came to visit her, or see her. Her pastor even met her at the hospital almost a month after her dad had been in the hospital, didn’t pray with here or go into see her dad with her. Wow this was such a shock. I have no idea how a man of God could not want to pray with someone that is hurting as bad as she is.
I have been told that my web site does not edify Christ. When the Priest and the religious people came after Jesus, He not only told them who they where but He also gave them a new name, “You brood of vipers”.
This is a simple warning, if you walk into a Church and the leaders and the folks on the stage and the folks greeting you are not excited to be there and showing that, then you maybe in the wrong place. Those folks maybe there only because they where told they have to be because of something other than why you should be there. I dare you to ready Ezekiel chapter 3 and if this does not pierce your heart then something’s wrong. Again I am not condemning any one church or man. But if you feel convicted, please pray about this as I have. It is not for me, to call or go check on someone that hasn’t been to church for a while that is for someone else to do it, or we don’t do that here. What? Please search your heart constantly, please read the Bibledaily and meditate on it. If you or someone you know, or your church is not lining up with what God says then do something about it.
I did, I tried for several years only when I needed them to do what I was doing for God, to come back to me, came back void from that church. To love someone is only to pray for them or send them and email every now and then? What?
I have come to terms with the fact that my church home can not support me and my family when we need them the most. That it is a personal matter. I was told when I needed love and compassion. What? Not a church matter or that we just don’t do that here. These are the things that have pushed us away. Not someone calling me up and saying I’m sorry you can no longer attend my church type of thing. If you look for me on the church directory you would see my name is not on there. Or my mom’s even though my mom is 73 years old, and has not been there for a while no one has called her and offered to take her to church while I was sick and in the hospital? Her name is no longer on the church membership directory either, even though I was told Teusday this is all some misunderstanding that we love you and we want you to come to church.
I have attending 1,452 services’ at this church that say’s to me, to be a member you only have to come twice. Yet my name is no longer on the church directory. I attended a church called Emmanuelle Baptist back in 1982-1983 my name is still on their directory and at least 3 other church’s I only attended for a while still have me and my family listed in there directory. Why? So some can see that name and say wow its been a long time since I scene them I’m going to pray for them and give them a call and see if I can come see them. Although that maybe misread into by some other folks.
Just a warning make sure that the Church you attend is excited about being there. Make sure they do what they teach. Make sure that they visit the sick, they visit with folks that they haven’t scene and simply don’t just right them off. If your pastor or teacher has decided in his own life to make policies that do not line up with what the Word says because of his own personal experience be very careful.
This is just a warning, I am not telling you to do anything like leave your church. If something is broken, fix it. If you see things not happening that you know should be, cause Jesus said to do. DO IT. Don’t wait for someone else too. If you know a family that is setting at home in the dark with no electric go help them, don’t wait for someone else. If you know someone is sick, the bible doesn’t just say visit them it tells us to care for them. It doesn’t say church policy is the family should do that! THE BIBLE DOSEN”T SAY THAT!!!! It say’s care for them….. So if you are reading this, and you know some things in your church that seem broken pray about, if God puts on your heart then DO IT.
Simple isn’t it. I know this sounds condemning, but it’s not, I am pleading with you, don’t let these things get out of hand at your church. Speak to your pastor if he tells you, I think that in my experience that, so – in – so. And that does not line up with the word. Ask him why would you even think that could be right! Confront him and your church leaders if they don’t line up. There are many church’s out there find one that does line up.
Simple if God said it, do it, if he didn’t say it then why would your policy be otherwise?
Thanks…..I hope God Blesses you and touch’s your heart. I know he has mine.
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10:45 AM
2 Comments:
monty :
hellow monty . i have watch as you have voiced your conserns . not saying much . we ( thouse in the church) have pathiontly lisened to you with ears of compathion and understanding . seeing your pain and torment . i ask you now to hear me . with the same
respect . you said that no one would come to your home from the church . that is not true ! i asked repeatedly for you to let me and 2 other men come to your home and pray and see what we could for you . the 3rd time i asked you some what rudely said no thanks you all ready had some frinds do that . you did not menchen that in your blogs . if you say not to come am i to come any way ? i was trying to respect your wishes . i would have come any time day or night . you said don policy would not let you work the ministery things if you missed church . that was not true ! you missunderstood what was said and saw it through eyes of pain and confusion becouse of what you were going through . i do things for the church . i do not atend all services . i work out of town a lot , and some times go to other chuches . some times i just dont want to drive the 45 mi to there , and just want to rest . so i know that dons policy for a fact is not what you said . you or your wife had said some thing about if we had to ask what we needed to do for you instead of knowing what to do something was wrong . thats not true ! and not fair . we are ready to help . i say again i and others will come to you to help . even though you have been putting us (the church)down . but you can not keep pushing us away . then get mad becouse we dont come over . that makes no sence monty ! the word says , (paraphrasing ) do good to thouse who speak ill of you , love even if others do it wrong , do unto others as you would have others do unto you . turn the other check . we are walking out these scriptures too you this day . you are not ! where is the forgiveness in the things you have said . all i see is lashing out at the thing you have missunderstood . i could go on in the things you have said that are not true but that is pointless . i dont want to hurt you . you have been hurt enuf . i know our brothers and sisters in Christ offten let us down . and even hurt us sometimes on purpuse , like you have done . but if we dont forgive we have missed the gospial of Jesus . if you spit in my face stab me in the back , as a mature Christan i am to forgive you ! yes say something , but i must forgive . that is following Jesus . the Body Of Christ has menny problems . we are so messed up that God Himself had to die to help us . no one is denining your pain . and we are trying to be patient with your venting . but this atack on the church and don must stop ! do you understand what you have done ? you have acused us of things that are not true , but are exaggerated .this is called slander ! and you have done this in frunt of the whole world ! is that not what the internet is ? any one in the world with the right keys can see what you wrote ? this is wrong . and your are indanger . you can not come against the church , Jesus Himself in public not tell all the truth and not expect consequences . and perhaps the enimy has so cloded your mind with pain and hurt that you belive what you have said . even if you do belive these things you have handled it verry immaturally , and have coused damage to the church . this is intolerable and must stop ! read what our Lord says about devisave men . its not purty . and you have been devisive . wehther on purpuse or not . monty i love you and am scaired for you . you are heading down a trap of our enimy . one that he uses verry
often . he devieds us and atackes us . and hurts the church in the meen time . ther are menny thing that need to be done by the church that are not . but it takes people getting invalved . and if you get invalved you let people get close , if you let people get close you may get hurt . and most dont want to take the chance . and many that do when they are hurt (and you will be hurt when you let people in look at Jesus) they forget the verry basics of our fath , to forgive one another and love one another as Jesus loved us ! united not devided . i hope you see my love for you in what i have written . to help you not to hurt you . but i to will stand up for what i belive . don carr is a good man ! not perfict . and he dose the best he can , could you do better ? grace fellowship is a good church ! not perfict by any strech . but what you have forgotten . it is a place of hurting people . afriade to let people in becouse of things just like this . and this is what makes people say, thats why i ant getting invalved ! so they draw back into there shells again . no more hurting monty ! stop it now ! in Jesus Name ! i love you and awate your responce ............lupe
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lupe, At
5:06 AM
Lupe was you there? How can you say something is not true unless you where there? Isn't that gossip? Are you saying that the folks I met with offered prayer for Elisbeth and I? Are you saying that they went in to pray with her dad? I am very confused by your comments about me saying things that are not true? What is up with that? I have been sick, I'm not trying to compete with anyone on who is the sickest. Please explain since I have not been to Church months that I am working to devide the church. I am not activing calling anyone and have not been giving this blog out to the church? Are you and Don and others there pushing my blog back and forth to gossip about my pain and sufferings?
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